Antifasistic protest in Ljubljana
Today I covered antifascist demonstration in Ljubljana. On my newly established photoshelter account you can see a broader selection of images. Click HERE.
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They can take our faschism but they cannot take our freedom!!!!
jc
28 April, 2009 at 12:53
where can i get an old yugo flag with the zvezda and a JEBES RAZIZUM t-shirt! GOLD! i feel sLOVEnia!
jc
28 April, 2009 at 12:55
What is up with covering faces? Are they ashamed to be associated with this thing? It is good to see however that Slovenia is finally stepping against leftist totalitarianism (Nazism was very leftist type of government).
Iztok
28 April, 2009 at 15:13
Iztok is back everyone!!! Check it out! Political comments and everything! Long live 6 figure man!
jc
28 April, 2009 at 16:53
I was surprised with this mascaraed as well. On the same day extreme nationalists also declared their manifestation, but they cancel it. And since recently some neo-nazis came in a faculty and made some threats, I guess people were expecting riots. I thought riots would happen but everything was very peaceful. Loud, but peaceful.
Considering extremism, I was thinking on you and other young neoliberal believers of free-market ideology. I reckon you had the same feelings to Tito, Communism and Socialism as I did, since we were all brought up in that ideology, but after the brake of Yugoslavia and the brake of Tito’s myth I was disappointed, so I don’t believe in any ideology, whereas you only exchanged the ideology for free-market ideology and kept the attitude and belief in righteousness of what you believe. But once again the ideology that you believed in it, crumbled down. I guess it must be a sobering deja vu.
Borut Peterlin
28 April, 2009 at 20:35
I don’t know where “neoliberal” comes from. I consider myself liberal (liberalism is pretty old concept so nothing “neo” about it). So when it comes to ideology I would hardly consider personal and economical freedoms as ideological but I will play along for a bit for the sake of conversation. By considering myself liberal I value personal freedoms as well as economical freedoms above anything else. I am against government regulation wherever possible. I don’t want government to decide if two can or can not marry based on their sexual orientation. I don’t want government to regulate if abortion and birth control is available to people or not. I don’t want government to take 50% or more of my hard earned money in form of taxes and similar items to spread to those who can work but are just not too interested to do it as they get unemployment support so easily. I don’t want to pay many times more for the same medical service as others. And so on and on.
Iztok
28 April, 2009 at 22:35
There is only one way to see an end to this debate but let me just express my deep emotional thrill to have Iztok “Six-figure Strazak” back on this blog. Thank you. Now I believe that the only way for us to really undertsand these complicated ideas is a gloves off, bare knuckle fight between Borut “two scars” Peterlin and Iztok “I make more money than you” hmmm….I dunno your last name ( which is strange because I saw all your high school pictures when I was in Slovenia…and…oh well…) let’s call you Dezertin…like deserter…TA DA! STRONG IMAGE! Anyway…whoever wins this amazing battle will forever be right in the hearts of these humble blog readers. It’ll be a tight one. Strazak, like the Shaolin temples raise their sons to do battle early on to fight off the Ljubljanaks as well as the Maribornaks. Iztok how much do you pay for health insurance?
jc
29 April, 2009 at 10:32
JC, my employer pays for health insurance 100% as part of my negotiation when I took the job. (For the whole family.) If this would not be the case it would cost me $3000 per year
Iztok
29 April, 2009 at 22:17
$3000…that’s peanuts. why are these fascist slovenes giving you a hard time. america rocks!
jc
29 April, 2009 at 22:51
Terms like values, religion and ideology are marking the same thing isn’t, they are just different levels on the same scale.
Under those values that you’ve mentioned I’m signing under as well, with a remark that economical freedom is a ideological joke! If we’re talking freedom, a person can not be half free isn’t? And by that I reckon you either are or you’re not free.
Economical freedom of a person depends about 70% to whom he/she was born to. If George Bush senior would be illiterate worker from suburbia of a small town in Texas, his son would much more likely to be sentenced to a death row then, to become a president of USA. Does my assumption make sense?
You can’t deny that free-market and Laissez-faire ideology didn’t work and I just wanted to say it’s the second system that I’ve seen crumbled in last 20 years, sort of deja vu.
From everything I learned not to believe in ideologies either political or religious.
Borut Peterlin
2 May, 2009 at 22:48
Economical freedom is not an ideological joke. There are various degrees of freedom not just black and white. I will give you an example of different degrees of personal freedom. Freedom of travel can be confined to one’s jail cell (not free at all), ones house (bit more free), town, region, country continent, and ultimately Earth (for now). All above are levels of the same personal freedom to freely move around. (1/3)
Just because statistically it might seem so your assumption is incorrect. By statistics current president of US should be in jail vs. leading the country. Yet due to personal and financial freedoms awarded in this country he was not only able to avoid ending up in jail, he became one of the most powerful men on this planet. (2/3)
Free market does work and will survive the interventions and will evolve and improve itself. It will move and correct itself given a chance and will survive past the interventions. It is still alive and works on many levels of modern society. The change in free market is also a lot less painful and violent compared to change of other systems. Difference is that it is driven by economical forces vs. political forces. Free market is still alive and kicking even in US. Many of us work in it every single day. We try to compete against other employees and our companies compete against other companies (foreign and domestic). If that is not free market, then I don’t know what it is. (3/3)
Iztok
3 May, 2009 at 12:48
Obama is an extraordinary exception. If he would have brains of George Bush he would surely be in prison, don’t you agree? With my prediction I’ve said that there is about 30% chances that a person does succeed in spite the circumstances (a very optimistic judgment), you are the one who see the world B/W.
Let me rephrase Marx; Economical freedom is the opiate of the people
and I treat it as an ideology. To be understood, I’m not against it, because also I’m addicted with it!
B5
Borut Peterlin
4 May, 2009 at 08:28
No I don’t agree with it. I’ve spent past weekend at the foster and adoption conference and seen many people from different walks of life. Some black, some white, some Hispanic, some educated, some not, some smart, some not. What was common to all was that they all have clan criminal history and have or had at one point a foster care license. Another thing they all had in common is resolve to make a difference. That is the key, resolve to make a difference.
Iztok
4 May, 2009 at 15:55